I am sooo sick of corny erotica for women!
Come on, stop insulting us! Challenge us, give us a new porn, a sexy porn, a smart porn, a fun porn, excite us! The porn industry is so far from being creative and innovative. Please try harder!!!
Why does everyone think that women want erotica? How come all there is for women on the market is soooo terribly corny, tacky, gayish and outdated?
Take my word for it, young modern women don't want flowers and sensibility, we don't wanna see a couple making love in front of the fireplace, we are tired of cliches, tired of seeing a poor innocent unsatisfied women who is not in touch with her own sexuality, who needs a strong and mysterious man to show her the world of pleasure. We are sick of seeing fire or other nature inspired images every fucking time she orgasms. We are done with the looks from the eighties and the slimy men and the corny wardrobe.
Posted by ERIKA LUST at 7:34 PM
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Erika:
tienes toda la razon.
la verdad es que ves lo que hacen en el porno para mujeres y es bastante patetico.
O sea, vamos que ni mi mujer ni ninguna de las mujeres onc las que estoy/estuve se engancha ocn esas tonterias. Y no porqueno le guste le porno. pero de ulitma preiferen otras cosas. Vasmos si hasta Ed Powers le resulta mas divertido porque de ulitma él es solo el.
Y en esot del prono a veces se necesita honestidad en el relato (como en cualquier peli vamos)
I've posted a longer version of this in my blog, but I thought I'd post it here as a comment as well.
So here’s the thing. I’ve heard this argument before. Lots of women are frustrated that "erotica for women" has come to mean softcore stereotyping and gormless guff. Indeed, I’ve been on the receiving end of abuse from another female webmaster who decided I was sexist because I called For The Girls "porn for women", and the site included elements of romantica. Apparently simply using the term "porn for women" upsets some people because - to them - it suggests a one dimensional definition of what women should enjoy in their porn.
I used to occasionally try and define "what women want" to male webmasters when they asked, but I don’t do it anymore, because it’s damned impossible. The more I talk with female porn consumers, the harder it gets. Chicks like so many different things, you could spend days cataloguing their tastes. Some like the money shot, others hate it. Some want to see close-ups of genitals in their porn, others want the camera to keep it’s distance. Some women love seeing naked men, others are left cold by pictures of dicks.
Thus I’m not so sure that all young women don’t want flowers or romance, because I’ll bet some of them do. And indeed, even some of the young girlies who are into filthy hardcore as much as the next man may feel inclined to indulge in a little squishy romantic erotica every now and then.
I’ve done my share of assuming in the past. When I started out in 2000, I reckoned that most woman wanted what I wanted - and this has actually been a successful strategy up to a point. My porn has always reflected my own tastes - and they’re fairly vanilla, hetero tastes in the broader scheme of things. I’m partial to the odd spot of romance, just as I enjoy seeing well-made hardcore. If you can give me hot, realistic hardcore in front of a fireplace, giddy up. And I know that plenty of other women share my tastes because they buy my product. "Write what you know" as they say.
At the same time, I know that heaps of other women aren’t into what I offer. That’s cool. You can’t be all things to all people (although perhaps I need to build a few more smut sites to cater to different female tastes).
And while porn for women has meant softcore stuff in the past, that’s only because it’s still a relatively new concept. Yes, Candida has been making her films for 20 years, but no-one else has even tried, which has meant that Candida’s vision or women’s porn has become the standard.
Today we have Estelle Joseph, we have you, Erika, we have Anna Span, we have the Puzzy Power manifesto, we even have the female directors from Playgirl and Inpulse making their particular brand of women’s porn. Then there’s the women behind the magazines Sweet Action and Scarlet. And there’s also the internet, which has offered women a chance to explore their own tastes and sexuality in a private, accepting way. I like to think For The Girls and my other porn sites are part of this.
The point is, people are in the process of creating a new genre. What we’re seeing now is all kinds of attempts to please female lovers of porn. That, in itself, is a great thing. Not everything is going to satisfy my tastes. Even so, I’m sure there are some women out there for whom it’s perfect.
Everyone is bringing their own perspective to this game, and it seems that there’s a bit of a turf war going on here and there to establish the "true" porn for women. Often you’ll hear the phrase "At last! A women’s perspective" or "Finally! A female porn movie!" or "Real men!" or even "Yes! The first site to offer women what they really want!" (I’ve been seeing this for at least five years now).
But when I really think about it - they’re all good. Anything that tries to cater to women and offer a female viewpoint of sex, be it film, photography, writing or art, is to be encouraged.
So, Erika, while I disagree with your viewpoint, I can see that it reflects your own tastes. And it’s a legitimate perspective that you bring to your work and that lots of other women will welcome. By all means, dispense with the fireplaces, the 80s hair and the corny romance. Create - and demand - porn that you find sexy. It’s the only way we’ll ever change the industry - and the world.
“Porn made by women� and “Porn for women�
After debating with Tony Comstock and Ms Naughty about “porn made by women� and “porn for women�, I want to clarify my opinions:
“Porn made by women�
I don’t care if porn is made by men or women, I believe in our individual differences and I don't beleive that our actions are defined by gender. It’s a fact that most porn has been made by men exploring their fantasies, perspectives and ideas. And I think that we need to see more female filmmakers exploring their ideas of sexuality and pornography. But of course porn made by a guy can work for women and a girl’s porn can work for men.
I do care, however, about the quality of the product and the values transmitted. If porn offends women… or men for that matter, if it reproduces ridiculous stereotypes and stupid assumptions about gender and sexuality I get upset. And the way I see it, most porn do.
“Porn for women�
We are all individuals with personal tastes. Every woman wants porn that satisfies her particular taste. Some want what I call “corn-porn�, and some want hardcore, others fetish or gay porn, and some may not want to watch porn at all. This is all fine by me! But what I wanted to say in my post I am sooo sick of corny erotica for women! was: I haven’t been able to find almost any porn on the market today that I personally enjoy. I want something with a more modern touch, a kind of “Sex and the City� explicit porn. And from my discussion with other women of my generation, I know many feel the same way. My problem with corny erotica, or corn-porn isn’t its existence, but that it’s the only thing labelled “for women� on the market.
So is my porn only for women? Of course not! But I decided to call my porn “porn for women� so girls who never really liked the products the porn industry offered would easily see that this is a product at first hand aimed at them, created for them specifically.
So do I discriminate men? I don’t think so. The porn we’ve seen for years have been targeting a male audience at first hand. The male has been the norm even if the industry told us their porn is for everybody, and the same goes for Society in general. But even if porn at first hand has been targeting a male audience, some women do like it, and some men don’t. The same goes for my short film “The Good Girl�, it’s made for women, however some love it, some don’t, and some men find it fabulous, while to others its just crap.
So, Mr. Comstock and Ms. Naughty, even if we disagree on some standpoints, it seems like we all want the same: More sexy smart films for sexy smart people. More original creative female and male viewpoints of sex, erotism and pornography, be it film, photography, writing or art. Porn that we find innovative, fun, original, challenging and that shows great fucking sex!
Love,
Erika Lust
www.erikalust.com
I am completely here. SO tired of not being able to find a female alternative on the web. A real female POV site, or something that lets me see some actual sexy men having sex-- where the focus is not the lady.
I've tried all the "female sites" that have women at parties sucking random strippers cocks.... How in the world is that for ladies. I go to a strip club, I want exactly what guys get. Someone telling me how hot I am, writing against my clit, and getting me to feel his.. abs. I don't want a guy trying to get me to suck him off. I get that every day.
Please Please make some change. I'm getting so frustrated, I'M thinking of going into the porn industry. And that would not go down well in my family.
-Disgruntled horny gal
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